DARTMOUTH(WEST BOUND HOPPER)27th-31st AUG 2015.
Caveat: All data supplied should be crossed checked, passages timed for specific boats to meet Tide Gate as we are on springs.
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 START BAY
RACING:
ALL RACING IN START BAY SO SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. BEWARE OF WEDNESDAY(26TH) RACE FROMA BRIXHAM TO DARTMOUTH STARTING AT 14:00. THURDAY FIREWORKS:
CAN BE VIEWED FROM ROYAL DART YC VERANDA. ALL WELCOME. |
VHF COMS:
DO NOT USE 37B,72 AND 77 CHANNELS. CALL ON 16 AND USE 6 OR 8 AT SEA. ON DART LISTEN ON CH11 DARTNAV=DARTMOUTH HARBOUR. |
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Berthing:RC(C) will confirm final plan.
RC(C) will be there in VIVACIOUS. A final list of boats will be issued to BRNC about a week beforehand. For those arriving on the 27th, we’ll have a ‘wet run’ for the afloat ‘Pontoon Party’. Agreed with BRNC Dartmouth that we will be able to use the Dartmouth buoys. A1 to A6. Three of the biggest boats will be placed on the first buoy to be used as a base for an afloat ‘pontoon party’ on Saturday 29th to watch the air display. It will be a bring your own drinks to supplement a small RNSA contribution, plus a communal contribution of things to eat. As regards the pontoon, if we have too many for a boat party, we will have to consider the pontoon, but we will also have to be prepared to scrub off the seagull mess, and think about a wet weather routine. CLICK ON IMAGE FOR LARGER PLAN which shows info known to date. Note: Jolly Tack Tar and Jackaroo have been invited to join us after Racing. |
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Programme:
‘Icebreaker’ at 1730 on Thursday, the Regatta Party on Friday, and the Dinner on Saturday:
The Icebreaker:
A gathering of those around to say hello
Bring drinks (Beer, wine and soft drinks equivalent to a half bottle of wine per head) and ‘nibbles’ (crisps, peanuts etc plus something to put them in). Absent containers will be repatriated!
Venue, probably on one of the boats at A1 buoy
Dress, come as you are
The Regatta Party:
On board Windfall, Vivacious and Port Star at A1 buoy
Something to make the most of! For those of you who have not been before, you get a grandstand view of the air displays from the College buoys
Again, please bring drinks with you and the sort of food you would expect at a finger buffet, plus crisps and peanuts. Bring it warm, or on a tray ready to warm in Windfall or Port Star’s oven
Dress casual
Dinner:
You cannot book at a restaurant in Dartmouth during Regatta Week
Solution: invade the chosen venue en masse
The closest suitable place to the dinghy landing pontoon is the Floating Bridge which I have used before. I have spoken to the manager and explained our situation, and his advice is to arrive early between 1730 and 1800 Saturday 29th.during the repeat air display. I have been assured that we will be able to sit together, and last time Tim was there the food was good. Tim will see if pre-ordering is a viable proposition and will let you know.
Individuals will be responsible for their own bills.
Dress casual
Portland Programme:
Initially this was planned as a West bound Coast Hopper but as it has now been almagamated with the RNSA 80 Dartmouth rally it is proposed that the West bound coast Hopper is conducted on the return journey as it should make for an easier navigation around Portland with the knowledge that it will be getting dark at 21:00. The details of where this may take us along the coast will be built from from the Navigational work to be done and placed on this site.
Sail Plan:Portland.
Portland Boats are sailing to Skippers choice to Day/Location and Time. So far no decisions taked on Return Journey. Some will be there for Ice Breaker others will be later.
The proposed sail plan was set in the Gallery below subject to all conditions that will apply on the day(s). This plan would indicate a total event time of 5 days. Individuals may not have the availability to do this programme but it is there for you to use as you wish.
Now the plan is drafted, tides and streams have been looked at to see the feasibility of the plan. Assuming a departure date of 27th August. Seems OK with an estimated departure time of o6:30am from Portland.
On Return: Possible Coast Hopper staying overnight at Babbacombe and Lyme as wished.
From Dartmouth. Estimated time 8.5 hrs to Bill. Tide gate at 18:00 on 31st. Departure 09:30 from Dartmouth.
From Babbacombe Bay. Estimated time 8 hrs to Bill. Tide gate at 18:45 on 1st Sep. Departure 10:45 from Babbacombe.
From Lyme :About 5hrs to Bill at 4knts over ground. Tide gate at 19:30 on 2nd Sep. Departure 14:30 from Lyme.
‘Icebreaker’ at 1730 on Thursday, the Regatta Party on Friday, and the Dinner on Saturday:
The Icebreaker:
A gathering of those around to say hello
Bring drinks (Beer, wine and soft drinks equivalent to a half bottle of wine per head) and ‘nibbles’ (crisps, peanuts etc plus something to put them in). Absent containers will be repatriated!
Venue, probably on one of the boats at A1 buoy
Dress, come as you are
The Regatta Party:
On board Windfall, Vivacious and Port Star at A1 buoy
Something to make the most of! For those of you who have not been before, you get a grandstand view of the air displays from the College buoys
Again, please bring drinks with you and the sort of food you would expect at a finger buffet, plus crisps and peanuts. Bring it warm, or on a tray ready to warm in Windfall or Port Star’s oven
Dress casual
Dinner:
You cannot book at a restaurant in Dartmouth during Regatta Week
Solution: invade the chosen venue en masse
The closest suitable place to the dinghy landing pontoon is the Floating Bridge which I have used before. I have spoken to the manager and explained our situation, and his advice is to arrive early between 1730 and 1800 Saturday 29th.during the repeat air display. I have been assured that we will be able to sit together, and last time Tim was there the food was good. Tim will see if pre-ordering is a viable proposition and will let you know.
Individuals will be responsible for their own bills.
Dress casual
Portland Programme:
Initially this was planned as a West bound Coast Hopper but as it has now been almagamated with the RNSA 80 Dartmouth rally it is proposed that the West bound coast Hopper is conducted on the return journey as it should make for an easier navigation around Portland with the knowledge that it will be getting dark at 21:00. The details of where this may take us along the coast will be built from from the Navigational work to be done and placed on this site.
Sail Plan:Portland.
Portland Boats are sailing to Skippers choice to Day/Location and Time. So far no decisions taked on Return Journey. Some will be there for Ice Breaker others will be later.
The proposed sail plan was set in the Gallery below subject to all conditions that will apply on the day(s). This plan would indicate a total event time of 5 days. Individuals may not have the availability to do this programme but it is there for you to use as you wish.
Now the plan is drafted, tides and streams have been looked at to see the feasibility of the plan. Assuming a departure date of 27th August. Seems OK with an estimated departure time of o6:30am from Portland.
On Return: Possible Coast Hopper staying overnight at Babbacombe and Lyme as wished.
From Dartmouth. Estimated time 8.5 hrs to Bill. Tide gate at 18:00 on 31st. Departure 09:30 from Dartmouth.
From Babbacombe Bay. Estimated time 8 hrs to Bill. Tide gate at 18:45 on 1st Sep. Departure 10:45 from Babbacombe.
From Lyme :About 5hrs to Bill at 4knts over ground. Tide gate at 19:30 on 2nd Sep. Departure 14:30 from Lyme.
ROUTE PLAN: (CLICK ON THE IMAGES)
TIDE INFORMATION (AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.)RUNNING INTO FULL SPRINGS AT WEEKEND TIMES BST
TIDAL STREAMS LYME BAY: CLICK ON FIRST IMAGE THEN USE PADDLES TO GO FORWARD AND BACK.
THE FOLLOWING SHOWS TIDE DATA AROUND BILL CALCULATED FROM HW DEVONPORT. ALL TIMES BST
THE RIVER DART:
Tidal Streams: The River Dart has strong tidal flows during flood / ebb as the river fills or empties. The river can run @ up to 3 Knots making berthing or picking up buoys hazardous when in full flood / ebb. Avoid berthing near strong flows if possible.(Will be on springs need to arrive on the turn but then water will be flowing out.Note the Tidal streams indicate max rate of 1.5kts on flood at Castle so do they not include river flow??
http://saboa.webs.com/Dartmouth%20-%20Sailing%20Directions%20-%20Web.pdf
http://www.visitmyharbour.com/harbours/channel-west/dartmouth-marinas/chart/AD093D5362831/dartmouth-chart-2012
Rough guide: From - 5 to 0 HW Devonport river is on flood ie flowing in from Sea. From +1 to -6 HW Devonport river is on ebb ie flowing out to Sea.
The BRNC buoys are situated above the higher Ferry and are large disc shaped and yellow. They have two pickup lines and can take two to three boats depending on size. They are GRP covered and due to the effects of wind and river flow can rub against side of boat so you should have some matting over the front each side as fenders will just roll off.
http://saboa.webs.com/Dartmouth%20-%20Sailing%20Directions%20-%20Web.pdf
http://www.visitmyharbour.com/harbours/channel-west/dartmouth-marinas/chart/AD093D5362831/dartmouth-chart-2012
Rough guide: From - 5 to 0 HW Devonport river is on flood ie flowing in from Sea. From +1 to -6 HW Devonport river is on ebb ie flowing out to Sea.
The BRNC buoys are situated above the higher Ferry and are large disc shaped and yellow. They have two pickup lines and can take two to three boats depending on size. They are GRP covered and due to the effects of wind and river flow can rub against side of boat so you should have some matting over the front each side as fenders will just roll off.